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Dating Ludwig Drum products can be rather easy or quite tedious.

In reality, the early days of drum manufacturing held no regard for dating or serializing a product for chronological relevance.

This information will only pertain to Drums I worked on that I knew to be original since things have a tendency to get swapped out over the years, especially Strainers, which can generate some confusion so please keep this in mind if looking at an e Bay listing, or even a Ludwig Catalog, that doesn’t jibe with “the facts.” Ludwig had a tendency to reuse images for their Catalogs even though things had changed and overlap, in their process, the introduction of newer style parts with the older style, as opposed to having a clean “breakpoint.” Because of this please don’t think what I add is “carved in stone,” it’s just what I have come across on the “originals” that I have worked on and I’m learning something new all the time…............

The 404 entered Ludwig’s stable of Snares in 1963 and is shown below in the first Catalog it appeared in, the "New for '63" supplement to Catalog No.62.

This image is mis-leading since it's transposed, so it shows a mirror image with everything "backwards." The Throw-off Arm, Badge & Baseball Bat Tone Control Lever are actually positioned the same as shown in the previous image.

Throughout the 1960’s & into the mid-70’s the Rims on both the Acrolite & Supra Phonic were much thinner than they are today and in my opinion give the Drums from that era a more open, or resonant, quality.

There is a certain passion and joy that goes into documenting, or identifying a vintage drum, especially one manufactured by Ludwig.

It tells a story, not only in what it is, but where it's been; the roads traveled, its relevance to drum manufacturing, and its influence on music.

The black and white badge denote the Rocker series.

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If you wish to replace any images in existing threads that use Photobucket links and you find you cannot, please send a PM to Whitecat and we will try and sort it out. Does anyone have any info on how to "read" the ludwig serials on the blue and olive badges?

(70's) I've been looking for this for quite some time, with no result.

I'm trying do determine exactly when my vista lite kit was built... I've seen a few charts, but they're not too accurate.